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So you think your a Christian?
Posted on Thursday, May 21st, 2009 at 7:10pm by SteveNoble
Over 80% of Americans profess to be Christians...yeah, right. Of those "Christians":
- 50% don't believe the Bible is accurate
- 40% believe Jesus was a sinner like you and me
- 40% believe that the Bible, the Koran and the Book of Mormon teach the same truths.
Are the majority of people in America who think they are Christians...not? How did we get here? Who is to blame?
That's the hot question on today's show! What do you think??? Chime in on the BLOG!
christian????
If you call me a christian, it is a complement.
If I call myself a christian,it's wishful thinking, or a lie.
Confused
wishful thinking?
Wow, your comment makes NO sense! I wouldn't CALL someone a Christian, I would call them by their name. I would say that someone is a brother or sister in Christ to their face as an acknowledgement of us being adopted into the same family and having a "spiritual" connection as a term of endearment. How on earth can you be lying if you say, truthfully, that you ARE indeed a Christian, a child of God? That makes absolutely no sense! Besides, if you CALL yourself a Christian, and you're not, then you're a liar, and we know that, generally speaking, Christians don't dive into the sin of lying.
Foolishness
How in the world could anyone ever think that our Lord and Savior was a sinner? And who are we to say or even think that the Word of God is wrong? I was saved on Easter Sunday in 2008. I am still a sinner but I know the Bible says only through Jesus Christ can a man enter the Kingdom of Heaven. This is written and God sent HIS SON to save idiots like those whom think the above listings. I feel sorry for those who don't believe and feel that way. I guess they will find out on judgement day! God Bless all of you!!
Jesus a sinner?
Simple...these people don't have a CLUE what the Bible says! Blame their churches or their parents, but they are going to be held responsible for what they CHOOSE to know. I used to get mad about these people - now I just get sad. Don't assume churchgoers are saved...most of them aren't! SHARE THE GOSPEL WITH EVERYONE!
This world we live in, is
This world we live in, is getting worse every day; for Christianity to be accepted has to be "Light" or other wise is rejected; but if you are reached/approached by any other religion you are forced to do all the things they tell you or you are rejected. While on Christianity God gives you the opportunity to summit to His ruling by love sake to Him, not by force and it still is not the first choice people makes they seem to like the bad ways, by force, for obligation, God loves us so much and we demonstrate no love to Him, we want all in our terms no on His. Is sad to see this results, and we are to blame, by not standing true to our savior, and and preaching the full gospel, and following all his commandments.
every time Christianity is attack we remain silent for fear to be politically incorrect and rejected by the world.
Great topic
Steve...great topic. Make the gospel clear so everyone knows what it means to have saving faith!
I am a Christian for the
I am a Christian for the same reason most every other Christian is: I was raised in a Christian family.
I am sure that if Jesus existed he was a human being just like you or me. Well, maybe not like Steve Noble. I doubt Jesus was THAT obnoxious.
no kidding, Boris
Nice reading comprehension
Nice reading comprehension skills, Steve. I said I am a Christian, not an atheist. Being a Christian is passed down. My parents taught me Christianity just like yours did. I say the prayers myself, of course and the free will is mine, but if we had been born in Pakistan we'd be Muslims most likely. We weren't; we were born in WASP USA so we're Christians.
Who is Boris?
Your Brother in Christ,
Barney
A lot of people claim to be Christians
Barney,
Saying "I am a Christian for the same reason most every other Christian is: I was raised in a Christian family" sounded to me like a sarcastic (and incorrect) statement used by those who want to reject the Bible. These people make the argument the Bible can't be true or if it is, God isn't fair because some people were born at the wrong place and the wrong time to believe. But God ordained when and where we would live (see Acts 17:26). Even if your statement was correct, God, as creator, has every right to choose those he will save, and said to Moses “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy” (Rom 9:15, Ex. 33:19).
Your statement was incorrect because it ignores (a) the fact that 75% of youth raised in the church leave and never come back, and (b) the growth of the church in other countries where people are coming to Christ in spite of rejection by their families as a result.
Doug, your facts gotta be
Doug, your facts gotta be wrong. Sorry. Where did all the Christians in the USA come from?
No, what we disagree about isn't that we were raised Christian. We disagree about who we consider to be Christians.
I am what you (and I assume you are of the Steve Noble ilk) would refer to as a nominal Christian. I don't believe the Bible literally true and I don't think we need to.
Yes, I take exception to Noble's fundamentalism and his obnoxious style and I use sarcasm to answer sarcasm (or just because). Sorry, but he invited me here to comment so I availed myself.
best,
Barney
P.S. if i assume incorrectly I apologize
Christians in the USA
There have been several studies suggesting that a high percentage (some lower and some higher than 75%) of students leave the church after high school. With regards to the church in other countries, I said the church is growing in many places where people are rejected by their families. I'm not sure which of those things you are trying to refute.
Studies have shown 80% of people who trust Christ do so before they are 18, so it is only logical that it is more likely for someone to come to a saving faith if they are introduced to it while they are still young. Having said that, we are not always talking about the same people when we say the word "christian. Not everyone who claims to be a Christian actually is. I talk to many self-professed "christians" who often cannot explain what they believe or know whether they will be going to heaven, and many think they will go to heaven because they do good or were baptized or went to church every Sunday.
BTW, If you are accusing me of believing the Bible to be true, then I am guilty as charged.
Doug, I am saying most folks
Doug, I am saying most folks claim the same religion as their parents. You can say that they leave the church later, or that they aren't really Christians because (fill in your fundie theology here), but that just proves my point. It also proves my second point that what you really disagree with is folks like me (Bible doubters) identifying themselves as Christian.
Barney
"God is the only being who,
"God is the only being who, in order to reign, doesn't even need to exist." Charles Baudelaire (1821-1867)
"The idea of God implies the abdication of human reason and justice. It is the most decisive negation of human liberty." - Mikail Bakunin (1814-1876)
Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation, all which may be guides to an outward moral virtue... but superstition dismounts all these, and erecteth an absolute monarchy in the minds of men." - Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
More quotes...
Psalm 14:1, 53:1 - The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
2 Chronicles 36:16 - But they mocked God's messengers, despised his words and scoffed at his prophets until the wrath of the LORD was aroused against his people and there was no remedy.
Galatians 6:7-8 - 7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
John 8:47 - 47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."
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